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  1. 18 years is a long time to throw away. What if you could get your husband off of drugs, would that make a difference?  Maybe that is the direction you should be going?

    Of course we get these types of questions all the time. There is no hard-and-fast answer. Only questions like the ones I have posed to you. Ultimately you have to make the decision yourself. I am just here to help you make an informed decision with all of my rhetorical questions.


  2. I'm not sure from what perspective you are seeking an answer from. You have found a good way to sabotage your marriage and I wonder if it could go on even if you wanting to stay with your husband. Do you have kids involved? How long have you been married? What if it doesn't work out with your cousin and you end up with nothing? Why are you not happy with your husband and what makes you think you will always be happy with your cousin?

    Marriages are not always puppy dogs and rainbows. If you can't get through tough times with your husband what makes you think you can get through those better with your cousin?

  3. It could be a lot of things. I turned of caching for the entire website because I am remaking the info pages. I also optimized the database which seemed to get it out of wack. I also cleared the forums cache.

    Pick one lol. I really don't know. It should be temporary tho!

  4. I am putting this here for comments. It is longed believed that "generations" of cousin marriages exponentially cause birth defects. It sounds reasonable but I don't see any evidence for it.  Here is a quote from Dr. Brittles:


    In a study based on combined data from 38 populations in eastern and southern Asia, the Middle East, Africa, Europe, and South America, with average coefficient of inbreeding (a ) values ranging from 0.0005 to 0.0370, mean excess mortality at the first cousin level was 4.4% (Bittles and Neel 1994). This estimate appears to be valid for all of the large human populations so far examined. However, consanguinity interacts with a range of sociodemographic variables in determining rates of mortality during infancy and early childhood. When these influences were simultaneously analyzed using data collected retrospectively as part of the 1990/91 Pakistan Demographic and Health Survey, the major determinants of early death were maternal illiteracy, maternal age at birth of less than 20 years, and a birth interval of less than 18 months. But, even after controlling for these factors, first cousin progeny had statistically significant odds ratios for neonatal, postneonatal, and infant mortality of 1.36, 1.28, and 1.32, respectively (Grant and Bittles 1997).


    He finds a 4.4% increased risk for the offspring of cousins. I think the NSOGC found an increased risk of 1.6 - 2.7 % for North American cousin couples. There does appear to be a difference but it could be accounted for by poverty and many other factors that are not unique to cousins.

    LadyC, a closer look at the " congenital anomalies bullet list " shows that cousins have three times the risk of non-cousins. I think that is way out there. Given the fact that the Powerpoint doesn't mention cousins and it erroneously lists hemophilia, the whole darn thing is unmitigated BS.

    For once anyway, the Trump supporters are exactly right. Dr. Dena is a "brain dead moron!" I think she deserves her very own cc.com page. Who knows? It could happen if I get bored enough.

  5. 7 hours ago, LadyC said:

    they look very similar to what i can remember alan bittles publishing about the complications in middle-eastern and third world countries where pre-arranged marriages between first cousins is common, even through multiple generations. 

    You have put forth this claim for years now and I still can't verify it. Ottenheimer scoffed at the idea and stated that cousins seem to have more children than unrelated couples. She could have got her stats from those British Pakistanis which had big problems.

    btw Dr. Dena is called "[sic] brain dead moron" by Trump "trolls" per her twitter account. Dr. Phil forgot to mention that she is a crackpot failed politician as is her husband who beat his first wife and cheated on her with the lovely Dr. Dena.

    Isn't life grand?

  6. Hi Dr. Dena,

    Would you please share your footnotes for the stats that you presented on the Dr. Phil show? I have serious questions as to the validity or applicability of your stats as it relates to first cousin marriages. The powerpoint title doesn't mention cousins specifically, so you can where one may be confused as to the applicability of the stats.

    Thank you for your time in clearing this up.


  7. My point is based upon two things. The title of the powerpoint presentation is titled, "Consanguineous Marriage Complications." These stats are made up. I've read every study out there. Cousins actually have a lower chance of miscarriages than the general population. I know bs stats when I see them.

    Dr Phil appeared to be hungover or stoned. Part of his brand image is being an a$$ hole.

    Now I'm furious about them claiming that we cherry pick our data. Up yours Dr Phil!


  8. Ouch. It looks like our friends from Utah got blindsided on the Dr. Phil show. It appears that Dr. Phil found a yahoo to mislead the viewers by using stats that represented all consanguineous marriages (incl father/daughter incest). All of the stats were off the wall. It certainly didn't have anything to do with cousins.

    Dr. Phil warned them to be wary of websites like "cousins-r-us" LOL. I say be wary of talk shows.

    It's painful to watch this all go down:



  9. In a few weeks, I will be back in school. I am going to finish my masters if it kills me. I only have about a year left. A year of grunt work!

    I will be paying for the last year of tuition out of pocket. I may stick a few unobtrusive ads on here until I finish school. You guys can help me buy ramen noodles and tea. I think I need to upgrade to coffee for real. I can't find any legit 2nd flush Darjeeling anyway. I would even be satisfied with some good Nepal teas. I digress. 

    I am trying to convert the main pages into Wordpress format before I run out of time.

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