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  1. MissPrice

    Im nervous

    If people are misinformed, you just have to educate them. I usually start by saying "Darwin, Einstein, and Queen Victoria all married their first cousins, so I think I'm in good company." We don't advertise that we are cousins, but it usually comes up with friends in the "How did you meet?" conversation. We just tell people simply and directly when they ask. They are usually mildly surprised, many people then tell us about a cousin crush they've had. It hasn't happened, but if anyone reacted with shock and horror, I wouldn't want them as friends anyway.
  2. MissPrice

    How does the government know?

    If you are applying for a marriage license, some states have a question about kinship on the application. If you lied, I imagine there would be legal ways to argue that the marriage is invalid. This was my concern with myself and my cousin/husband when we got married. Ohio (where we live) doesn't allow marriages between first cousins, but they accept marriages from other states as valid, so we got married in Tennessee, where first cousin marriage is legal. Of course, it would only matter if someone had the motivation to argue in a court of law that a marriage was invalid, but to me that wouldn't be a chance worth taking, no matter how remote.
  3. Pooch, whatever your intended message, telling a guy to grab a girl and kiss her without ascertaining her feeling first is a bad idea. I and pretty much every woman I know has at some point been grabbed and kissed, fondled, caressed, whatever when it was not what we wanted. That is an "unwanted sexual advance", which is textbook sexual harassment. And this is textbook emotional abuse:
  4. Just to clarify - the age of your cousin's parents or your parents doesn't matter. What matters is how old you and she are if you decide to have children. For example, a woman over 35 has about a 10% increased risk of birth defects compared to a woman under 35. Not something you two need to worry about for a while, since she's 23. And let me add my support to LadyC and Romalee in saying "being a jerk" to a woman you are interested in (or any woman for that matter) is terrible advice. In fact, I hope you ignore that whole post, as much of what "Pooch" suggests sounds like sexual harassment, and if a guy behaved that way towards me, far from being impressed, I would immediately distance myself as much as possible. I think you have some good ideas about opening lines. Good luck!
  5. MissPrice

    Three years in the making

    It's too bad that your mom is being so closed-minded. It sounds like you have a good plan for handling the situation though, and I doubt you'll lose your family over this. There might be some distance for awhile with specific people, but there's a very good chance they'll learn to accept it over time when they realize they can't change it, and it's not a bad thing. Good luck!
  6. You are the only person who can answer that question, but I would say, if you have to ask strangers on the internet if you are in love with someone, you probably aren't. You care about him, but it sounds more like you are afraid of dealing with the consequences of a breakup than that you actively want to be with him.
  7. MissPrice

    Three years in the making

    That's a tough situation. I haven't been there, but I've often thought that if my cousin (first cousin, now husband) and I had gotten together when we were younger/ when I was still financially dependent on my dad in college, he would have totally freaked out. The way it went for us, I was 28, financially independent, and living in a different state. I'd had feelings for my cousin forever, but it never occurred to me that a relationship was possible until then. My dad wasn't thrilled when I first told him, but he also knew that he didn't get a say, and he'd had several years to deal with me being an adult and making decisions he didn't always agree with. You are absolutely right that you should get to decide who you want to be in a relationship with. Being an adult who is financially dependent on a parent is tough for lots of reasons though, and this is a big one. You shouldn't have to hide this from your mom, but if she's going to threaten your living situation and/or education because of it, it's probably the best option you have right now, and I'm sorry about that. Do you have a sense of why she was so freaked out? She's your mom, so she loves you, and she thinks she's protecting you from making a bad decision. So why does she think it's a bad decision? For example, if she's worried about genetic issues with her future grandkids, you could show her the science that the increased risk of birth defects is extremely small. It doesn't matter if you think you'll want kids or not, since it's just about her fears at this point. Like I said, my dad wasn't thrilled when I told him, but over time, he saw how happy I was, and how great we were together, and I talked to him about the reality of the genetic risks to his grandkids and explained that we were consulting doctors and being responsible about it. By the time we got married, about a year and a half after we got together, he was completely over his initial hesitations. I think most parents do, because in the end, what they want is to see is that their kid is having a good life. I bet your mom will too, but as long as you're financially dependent on her, that complicates things. She thinks she still gets to direct part of your future, and it sounds like she's ready to use whatever leverage she has to do it. She's put you in a bind, and while her intentions are probably good, it doesn't leave you with a lot of options. Good luck!
  8. I already gave you one suggestion. Just keep it simple. If you want to be less direct, try my suggestion above. My own approach was to be very direct. We were talking about dating, and he told me I would find the right man eventually. I said "finding him isn't the problem". He asked me what the problem was, and I told him that the problem was that "he is you, and I know you won't like that, but I can't change it". Something like that. Talk to her, and take the opportunity that presents itself, whatever that is. There is no script. Good luck, and let us know how it goes!
  9. Unfortunately, the only way to know is to approach her. No reward without risk. I can tell you that when I told my cousin, I didn't think he would return my feelings. I only told him because we were very close and talked about everything else, and I couldn't stand not telling him anymore. Now we are married, and I'm happier with him than I've ever been with anyone. It's a scary thing to do, to make yourself emotionally vulnerable like that. The question is, if you don't say something, how will you feel? If she goes off with someone else and you never said anything, is that better or worse than taking the chance that she'll reject you?
  10. Kitty - it's not a good idea to stay with someone because they will be hurt if you leave. That's not fair to either of you, because you aren't with someone you want to be with, and he has to know this on some level. If you don't love him romantically, you need to leave him. One the other hand, if you are just afraid of the complications of cousin relationships, and you are in love with him, you might want to look into it more. There is a slight increase in a chance of birth defects for first cousins who have children together, but it is not high (significantly lower than a woman over 35 having a baby for example) and you can also mitigate the risk with genetic testing. Depending on where you are, you may or may not be able to legally marry, and that is certainly something to consider. However, if you really love each other, it's worth the challenges. In the long run, you need to make a choice based on how you feel about him. Good luck.
  11. Ah, I see you did make a separate post here. The standard advice offered on these forums - which seems good to me - is to say something like "if you weren't my cousin, I would like to date you", which gives you the option of backing off if she doesn't respond well. How do you think your family would respond if you two dated? Is it considered taboo for second cousins to date in the area of India you live in?
  12. MissPrice

    The Benefits of Cousin Relationships

    Edward, you might want to make a separate topic and share some more details, such as you and your cousin's ages, the country/region you live in, whether you are both single, whether you are both financially independent from your parents, etc.
  13. MissPrice

    Confused as to whether I like my cousin or not

    Hi CptnKitten - It sounds like you have a lot going on. I agree with Nattana: your ex is a complete jerk, and the less you let his cruelty affect you, the better. Your cousin obviously cares about you, and being attracted to someone who cares is completely rational, especially if you've been dealing with abusive and emotionally damaged people. However, cousin relationships are inherently more complicated than relationships between unrelated individuals, so if you do decide you want a relationship with him, it's good to understand that in the beginning. In terms of sorting out your feelings, it's hard to know unless you give it some time. I can tell you from experience that him being your cousin doesn't mean you're not attracted to him. He's someone you know, and feel safe with. Despite the kinds of relationships our society likes to glamorize, that can be a great basis for a relationship, especially if you have trouble trusting people. Knowing how your family would react is impossible without telling them. I think in most cases, family members who love you will get over it eventually if they see it's good for you. My dad definitely struggled when I first told him I was dating my cousin, but by the time we got married last year, he was just thrilled to see me so happy. Maybe try spending some more time with your cousin. That will give you opportunities to figure out your feelings about him, and also to gage his feelings for you.
  14. That must be very frustrating for you, I get that. Do keep in mind though that she's pregnant and working. Also, it's possible you overwhelmed her with the gifts. It's a beautiful gesture, but she may feel awkward about accepting them. She may be unsure what your expectations are, and not in a position emotionally to engage with you, and craving pickles on ice cream with potato chips, and having hot flashes, and terrified of being a mother. My point is just that she has an awful lot going on right now, you know? After the father of her unborn child left her, she might distrust men in general, or she might not want to look at any man romantically, or any of a number of things. What's highly likely is that she doesn't have a lot of time for other people's thoughts and feelings (and she's probably not in the mood for surprises either). I can't imagine anyone who would in that situation. The best you can do is help where she lets you and be there when and if she wants you. It's hard to argue that she's using you, since she didn't ask, you offered. And I do get that it's really tough for you, and that you want so much to be a part of her life and to help her. I spent years watching my cousin with women who didn't value him, who took advantage of him, and didn't even notice his best qualities. It drove me up the wall. At one point, he was getting divorced, and was losing his house (that he and his wife had bought, and then she picked up and left him with the mortgage eight months later). I wanted so badly to fix it for him, and I couldn't. At the time, I was living two states away, and engaged. Point is, I really do understand how tough it is to not be right next to a person you love when they are going through a difficult time. But if you really want to be the better man in her life, all you can do is offer her your support (emotional support is more what I'm talking about than gifts), and then let her decide what she wants to do with that. Good luck!
  15. Just a friendly outside perspective here, but it kinda sounds like you are pushing too hard. The last time you posted, the plan was that you would go see her and talk to her in person once you were over the flu. You still haven't seen her in person, correct? In the last message you sent her, you talk about "the promise you both made", but it's unclear to me from what you've said when she promised you anything. Also, it's great that you want to help her and her baby out, but she doesn't owe you for that. If you do think she does, it wasn't a gift. Had I had the opportunity, I would have advised you against sending that last message. You had already made your move, that puts the ball in her court.