So i'm deeply in love with a cousin and im very confused on what type of cousin he may be all i know is that we are related through the same great garndparents for me and for him great great grandparents. So i need help trying to figure it all out. I've been calling him my 4th cousin but i could be wrong (i don't want to be, but its still very confusing) so i'll start with this:
My great grandparents had 11 childern which to him are his great great grandparents.
One of the 11 children was my grandfather and one was his great grandmother (who was older than my grandfather)
my grandfather had 4 children his great grandmother had 4 (i think)
One of my grandfather's children is my mother and one of his great grandmother's children is his grandmother
my mother had 2 children (one of them is me) his grandmother had i think 2 children (could be wrong).
His grandmother is my mother's first cousin.
So what does that make me and him?
Im very confused about it and i haven't been able to figure it out. All i know is that my immeadiate family is against us being together and his immeadiate family is not. All and any advice is greatly appreciated.
----------------------- Much love and thanks
First I'll start with a little backstory...
I'm 35, never married, no kids. She's 33, never married 3 daughters ages 9-16. We live in the same area, about a 15 min drive apart. We've known each other our entire lives but never really got close growing up. As kids we'd only see each other a few times a year on holidays and such. We never really connected back then but we were always cool and had a mutual respect for one another. We lost touch for a few years after highschool because she had good reason to separate herself from the family but we reconnected on social media when I was about 22 and that's when I started thinking of her romantically. To this day I'm the only family member on her dad's side she speaks to. Since then we've very slowly gotten to know each other more as people and friends. It started on social media and text here and there and now I see her maybe 4-5 times a year and we message each other weekly. We talk about what's going on in our lives, relationships a good bit and just normal friends/family chat. There was a conversation recently that sticks out but I'll get to that later... We both went through a hard break at about the same time last year and that really brought us closer together. So, I'll start there..
In May of last year we both went through our break ups. We vented to each other via text and were just kind of there for one another for a while. After that I didn't talk to her much for a couple months until October. She invited me to the movies with her and her daughters and it was nice, we all had fun. After that we started texting a lot more, daily infact, and I would flirt with her but never got a great response. Although at one point she said she wanted to go on a "date" (her words) and we went out in early December. We had dinner, drinks and saw a comedy show. It was great!! On the way home she started telling me what she wanted in a man, for her daughters and so on. I told her that someday I hoped to find the same things and she started saying how someday she hopes to have a place big enough for me to come and visit all my cousins, have dinner and just be a part of their lives. Then we both agreed that the bright side to our breakups that year was the opportunity to get to know each other more. I took her home, she gave me a big hug and we called it a night. We also planned to go out again when we could.
A few weeks after that the texting slowed down untill February when she invited me to a happy hour.
The happy hour was fun, I met a few of her friends, she joked that since it was a "new month" we were scheduled for a hang out and we even talked about another "just us" night out when spring came around.
I haven't seen her since but when talking about relationships a few weeks ago she said something interesting. I'm going to copy and paste the conversation below, I hope it's not too far out of context.
Me: my ex told me I love to strongly
Her: I do too! And im.to.honest and loyal and its a hard world for.us type of people to be in....But on the postive side i always think ull.never find anyone that can love u like i can i strongly believe that lol...and i like to.know im a good person thats the only thing that gives me.peace of.mind sometimes U have a great day to.
Me: Right I don't think I'll ever find anyone that loves me the way I love them and it's a shame because it's a lot of great things going to waste in my opinion.it blows my mind that people don't understand honesty in the consequences of dishonesty. over the years I've explained to honesty to my ex probably a million times she either doesn't understand it or doesn't care to be that type of person. I'm starting to think that most people are 100% selfish and they will put down anyone they have to to get what they want in the moment. Cruel world
Me again: Re read this message. When you say - but on the positive side.. U think that for real? Damn... Love you too. I'll love ya better than anyone else too. So thankful we've grown closer this past year. ❤
Her: No i said it right lol like if ur talkn to.ur.other half hahahah But im thankful we grown closer tooo
Me: I am talking to my other half. ❤. You are too.
(She gave a thumbs up to that, end of conversation)
Since then we've kept in touch on social media and text like always. At one point I offered to stay single until she got a bigger place so a woman didn't get in our way. She said that wouldn't be nessasary because we're family and me being with someone wouldn't change that. (Yes, I offered to wait for her, yes she turned that down)
It's almost summer so I'll be asking her out again soon.
She's moving into a bigger place in about 6 weeks from today.
So I'm just here wondering if others think that she seems interested romantically. Any advice on how to proceed with her in a more romantic way. What's a good way to "test the water" a little more?
I just want a healthy and happy relationship with her. I'd prefer our relationship be romantic but she'd have to want that too.
Thanks for reading, looking forward to any and all comments.
What an incredibly supportive and amazing group!
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Dear all at cc,
I became member of your website in order to help people who are sentimentally connected with their cousin make their life as much easier as possible by providing them valid information. Hope this will be particularly useful for hellenic (greek) people who want to marry their second cousin or first cousin once removed (defteranipsiòs/defteranipsià in hellenic) but also for non Hellenes who would like to compare the reality towards the cousin marriage in their country with the hellenic one.
First of all, i would like to inform friends here at cc that Hellas (Greece) is certainly one european country where marriage between 4th degree relatives (that is first cousins) is not allowed. Both the Hellenic Orthodox Church (for those who want to have a church wedding) and the State through the National Legislation (for those who want to have a civil wedding) ban the first cousins wedding.
I am quoting the relative hyperlinks right here:
Terms and conditions about the church wedding according Hellenic Orthodox Church:
Terms and conditions about the civil wedding accoding to Astikós Kódhikas (Civil Law-pdf file):
As Civil Law is a whole tome, just focus on articles 1350–1371. The critical article is 1356 which clearly states that the wedding between relatives up to the 4th degree is not allowed (literally stated "the wedding is prevented"). If you ask me, though not allowed, i sincerely don't know if there is legal punishment in case where two first cousins get married in Hellas.
As a general rule for my compatriots who are seeking valid advice… If you are in love with your second cousin (6th degree relation) or with your first cousin once removed (5th degree relation - that is with your dad/mum cousin or the child of your first cousin), then there is no legal or religious obstacle to get married. Any obstacle opposed by families is just a mind job whose foundations are far from scientific proof and Genetics.
After having asked friends who live in Italy, i got the answer that the italian law is similar with the hellenic. I think that many european countries (especially the catholic and orthodox ones) don't allow the first cousin marriage or they do it upon strict conditions. So, just for the sake of precision, Hellas (Greece) is defintely a European country where (first) cousin marriage is not allowed. So, talking about facts about cousin marriage here in the cc webpage
there is room for some revision in fact no3.
With best regards,